Posts by The Fall Guy

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Witness No More - any thoughts?

by dozy in

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for those who don't know , there is an ex-jw "activist" in the north of england called mark who demonstrates outside kingdom halls , focusing on the child abuse issue and similar topics.

he regularly updates his visits on his youtube channel , which has gained something of a cult following .

occasionally ( albeit less frequently , as he is now well known ) he gets into the kh & shouts and disrupts the meeting.

The Fall Guy

Totally negative way to try and get JW's to listen. He's desecrating "the only place of true worship in that area."

Self-defeating, because it confirms their belief that anyone who leaves "the truth" is now obviously demonized/anti-Christ.

Bottom line, how many of us ex/fading JW's here, were woken up by an apostate's rantings & ravings about the org? Very few, I imagine.

How were we as JW's taught how to snare new converts? Find common ground, and then ask viewpoint questions about a topic.

Fight fire with fire!

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Red Lion Child Abuse Video-English!

by Atlantis in

now i can't remember who it was that asked for this.

that's what iget for being an old timer.

more coffee!red lion child abuse videohttps://we.tl/ymlxgoapntatlantis!.

The Fall Guy

Thanks for the post Atlantis. The day of reckoning is long overdue for the WTBTS and its data base.

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Georgia jury awards 1 BILLION DOLLARS after guard rapes 14 year old teen

by Esse quam videri in

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/georgia-jury-awards-dollar1-billion-after-guard-rapes-teen/ar-aaxi4l2?li=bbnbfcl.

the public is getting very upset at the abuse of children.

how would the society survive if hit with this kind of award for the conduct of pedophile members when evidence shows they were trying to silence the victim by threats to protect the watchtower's reputation.

The Fall Guy

No doubt an appeal court will greatly reduce the $1bn award down to multiple millions, but even so, the WTBTS will be shuddering to see how much decent, non-JW individuals detest child-rapists. Get ready to be whipped, "slave."

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Suspect in Jehovah's Witness child sex abuse case arrested

by Tahoe in

by david gambacorta, staff writer @dgambacorta | [email protected].

martin haugh rolled out of bed one morning earlier this month, shuffled into his kitchen, and turned on his coffee maker.

while the machine gurgled to life, he glanced at his phone.

The Fall Guy

All praise and credit to everyone involved in exposing the WTBTS's concealment of child-rapists - especially Barbara!

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Struggling to Live a Lie

by Addison0998 in

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friends

it’s been very difficult, much more than i first anticipated to live a lie, (be pimo and a regular active member) i still live with my parents but i plan on moving out at the end of the year, so i really need to keep it together.

but i think people are starting to get suspicious that something is up.

i’ve stopped commenting, going on service all the time, talking at the door, and occasionally voicing something, such as a question that no one has a good answer for, that makes people think, but ahah, thinking is dangerous and wrong so that is suspicious of course.

The Fall Guy

Hmmmmm. I respectfully disagree with the suggestions to ask "awkward" questions. All that will do is get people to question you! Then prepare yourself for some real trouble from the local wolves.

If you need to fade quietly and painlessly - keep your mouth shut and continue to do less & less.

If you don't care, carry on asking those questions and stirring up minds. I did that in my last congregation (before I faded!) and received some very unpleasant treatment by the elders. JW's do not like having the "slave's" teachings being questioned - by someone who is clearly an independent thinker!

You have a PM.

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Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

by Anders Andersen in

well, the title says it all.

the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

The Fall Guy

As JW's, we were always told (and bragged to non-JW's) that we will always "obey the superior authorities," unless it conflicted with God's laws - i.e. "pay Caesar's things to Caeser...."

The business corporations of the CCoJW's/WTBTS who masquerade as Bible-based organizations, unashamedly reveal their true colours whenever money is involved or at risk.

May their blatant contempt for governments and the judiciary continue, because the authorities are waking up to their arrogance - even if most JW's aren't!

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Receiving so much hate recently....

by stuckinarut2 in

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friends

well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).

we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).

so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.

The Fall Guy

I totally feel for you Stuck, and every other faded/ex JW who feels pain when they are shunned by former friends and family members.

I genuinely believe that very many JW's are mentally ill-at-ease, not only with the cult lifestyle in general, but especially so with the oppressive changes enforced in recent years. As such, when a "fellow worker at the grindstone" unshackles the harness and abandons the pointless drudgery & strife and walks away, those still shackled experience seriously conflicting emotions - the inculcated hatred, but also envy of the one escaping.

The vast majority of blinded, non-thinking JW's deserve a chance to see. Those in the cult who are fully aware, deserve the plagues which are coming their way.

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Bayern Munich beaten in German Cup Final!

by The Fall Guy in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb0cbasgsie.

The Fall Guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb0cBASgsIE

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What Should I Say?

by cookiemaster in

i need a bit of advice.

i've been pimo for a long time and fading more and more.

i occasionally attend for family but never give any answers or actively participate in any way.

The Fall Guy

You have a PM

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Bible Teach Book points the finger at JW's themselves!

by The Fall Guy in

one of my all-time favourite illustrations:.

bible teach, chap.

16 p. 154 pars.

The Fall Guy

Thanks, ATLANTIS - LOL!!!

I just looked at that publication, and on page 5, Title Page/Publishers’ Page, it says this -

"NOTE: Unless otherwise indicated, all Bible quotations and references are according to the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, the revised edition of 1971 C.E."

So in reality, the JW's present Bible should be called The Revised, Revised, New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures.